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Post by Cytherea on Feb 13, 2013 19:35:11 GMT -8
Hi everybody! This is where your plotting and sketching for the future years go. So, if you guys like the idea of an alternate timeline, I've got a few ideas already. The main reason I can see for going back in time, is to save somebody that your character loves, when in their timeline, that person dies. In the Planning thread, we've got ideas going round. A basic gist is that some characters are going to die, resulting in emotional damage. Two of my characters, Cassandra and Endosi, will probably get killed during a battle between Ambia, and then Will and Matthew could work together to make a time machine to go back in time to rescue them, which changes the future immensely. Of course, it's very sketchy right now. I really need some input here, and definitely some other opinions!
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Post by Lithium on Feb 14, 2013 7:12:13 GMT -8
Actually, Matthew has already informed me that his company's research labs have already developed a time machine and are working on testing it to see if it is controllable and safe for human beings to travel in. There's an excessive amount of radiation created at this point, so they're working on radiation proofing it. I think the best way of rescuing these characters would be to estimate the exact time of their deaths and then going back BEFORE that happens, probably by about a day, then just grabbing them and going straight back to where they had came from at that exact time. This way, they don't have to worry about dodging bullets and such. War is going to be very heavy. Especially with it being the future and all. I'm thinking they'll have mech-suits (electronic battle suits). But, at the same time, Cassandra will need to be turned into an I.S. to actually get into the battle and onto the front lines. With the I.S.'s overthrow of Ambia, it'll be a lot like the French Revolution: bloody and cruel. So, she'll need to become one of them to survive it. :/ Just some thoughts.
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Post by Lithium on Feb 14, 2013 7:27:50 GMT -8
Just had another thought.
Maybe OnNa loses the war. They're nothing anybody can do to stop them. So all of our characters grab what they need and they go back in time. How about the 21st century, before OnNa was created? Then, they have to establish themselves within this "new" and strange world.
Then, maybe OnNa is established and the war between Neobolshevia + China and OnNa starts and they fight in it and help them WIN so that OnNa can live happily ever after.
How does that sound?
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Post by Cytherea on Feb 14, 2013 7:41:26 GMT -8
Okay, I LOVE the second idea. That would work out so nicely! How many characters would actually go back in time, though? How are we going to get all of them together, Subterrean and Royale both, especially after the war?
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Post by Lithium on Feb 14, 2013 8:17:40 GMT -8
Hmmm, well we could...
The time machine is also a teleporter. Matthew and Will could manipulate it to pick everyone up and then go to that age.
But then again... NO. Time isn't a straight line. If we think of time as a straight line, then our characters would all disappear. But it isn't the past is actually their present, so it's all okay.
That probably makes NO sense.
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Post by Cytherea on Feb 14, 2013 8:22:02 GMT -8
Well, Matty and Will would have to get to know all of the characters on the roleplay, because otherwise somebody is going to get left out.
Okay, so, time is not a straight line, which means going back in time would just be going over the bumps and bruises of the old time line.
I seriously don't know what I'm talking about here, but I think it might work.
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Post by Lithium on Feb 14, 2013 8:31:44 GMT -8
Yeah. It's weird. It's like...
So, say Matthew is in 2217, but then he goes forward in time to 2238. He technically "missed" all of those years to everyone, but he didn't miss anything. 2238 is his present. Then, if he goes back in time to 2013, then that is his present as well.
It's all about the theory of relativity, which is complicated and... XP. I wrote a paper on both the general and special theory of relativity.
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Post by Cytherea on Feb 14, 2013 8:35:59 GMT -8
Well, I have a feeling that you'll be expert when we need help with timelines. But what I got from that, is that if Matty was in the year 2217 and was 26, if he jumped forward in time to 2238, he would still be 26?
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Post by Lithium on Feb 14, 2013 8:40:26 GMT -8
Yeah. It would be like no time had passed for him, but to everyone else many years had passed.
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Post by Cytherea on Feb 14, 2013 8:45:42 GMT -8
So if he goes back to 2217 after jumping ahead to 2238, Cassandra would be young again? He'll unwrap what he did, sort of?
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Post by Lithium on Feb 14, 2013 8:52:30 GMT -8
Yeah, kind of. But not really unwrap. It's just going back to that time and making that the present. Time doesn't literally go backwards.
It's like watching a movie. You can skip to the end and have that as your present, but then go back to the beginning of the movie. It's still the same movie, you're just looking at a different frame.
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Post by Cytherea on Feb 14, 2013 9:45:07 GMT -8
Okay. That makes sense.
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Post by Lithium on Feb 17, 2013 16:34:15 GMT -8
Something quick. I'm not sure if they will disappear or stay alive if they change the future in their dimension.
So what if they accidentally hop dimensions? Like, they hop dimensions while they're going back in time and so they don't change the future in the world they're from, just the future in that dimension, then they live in that dimension for happily ever after.
How does that sound?
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Post by Cytherea on Feb 17, 2013 16:52:26 GMT -8
Okay, I think I understand, and I think that's a great idea. What you mean is that they go into a different dimension, which means they don't change OnNa's future? Will the dimension be in OnNa, or somewhere totally different? Or do I not get the concept dimension? I need help!
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Post by Lithium on Feb 17, 2013 17:42:32 GMT -8
So, they'd go to a parallel dimension: very similar to their world, except they can change the future in it because it wouldn't effect their own births and futures.
They won't change the OnNa that they were actual in, but the OnNa of a parallel dimension that they live in. Does that make sense?
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Post by Cytherea on Feb 17, 2013 17:48:17 GMT -8
So in this other dimension, would they change the future of the different people living in that dimension?
Other than that, I totally get it. I like that idea, and the one where they go back and help OnNa win the war, but this one seems easier, and, probably, funner.
What does everybody else think?
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Post by Lithium on Feb 17, 2013 17:51:18 GMT -8
Yeah. So the future them would probably disappear (or at least the subterreans), but they would continue to survive. And not just the war with Ambia, but the First Great War.
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Post by Cytherea on Feb 17, 2013 18:06:55 GMT -8
And then we could continue the story with our characters children, if we get that far!
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Post by Lithium on Feb 17, 2013 18:21:03 GMT -8
yup!!
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